I’ve heard from a couple people (most recently Andy Anderson) that there’s a scam going around where someone will email a photographer with a 10 day shoot overseas and then ask them to pay half of a work permit to guarantee they will show up for the job. It’s more involved then that with phone calls to a real person supposedly looking to hire a photographer but the idea is to get you to pay the fee. Drop a comment if you’ve had a similar request.
Update: Another version of the scam from the comments.
Another variation is an offer of a shoot in your local area, where they will send a deposit or offer the full fee, where you would keep half the fee if the shoot is canceled. The shoot would then be canceled and they would ask that the half be returned. The original check was bogus and will bounce in about 45 days, but because of a kink in the banking system it appears to have gone through during that time. If you send the refund, you will be out that amount when the check clearing system finally runs its course and debits the bogus check amount.
Another one:
I haven’t experienced this one, but a few months ago I was nearly scammed on a fine-art print order… a good sized print order came in through my website - a week later I received a cashiers check for almost double the amount of my invoice. The “client” wrote to explain that they were moving and her husband mistakenly included the shippers’ fee in my check… could I please wire the difference to the shipper so they could get started. I was totally suspicious but when the check cleared I was more convinced that it was an honest error. Just to make sure I checked with my bank and indeed, while they made the funds available, it can take up to 2 weeks for a check to clear. Sure enough, 10 days later all the money was deducted from my account. Luckily, all I lost was some time.
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WOW. so messed up. thank you for getting the word out. i look forwarding to hearing more about it as the story develops.
Posted 28 Apr 2008 at 5:22 pm ¶I get these at least twice a month. The scammers find me via Photoserve and Blackbook and every time I get hit up for a retarded 10 day shoot or to help out a minister overseas it reminds me how well my money is being spent with sourcebook ads.
Posted 28 Apr 2008 at 5:25 pm ¶I got this email on Saturday. They said the got me through PhotoServe (which I am on), so I was curious. But the email they sent wasn’t written well, so that kind of made me suspicious. But I emailed back out of curiosity. They responded right away saying that the assignment was a 10 day shoot for T-Mobile. They would provide all the models and location scouting, provide all transportation needs with a daily food allowance and a 22,000 pound shoot fee - additional info would be provided upon signing the contract. They also said they would provide all the equipment needed (that I thought was strange).
Posted 28 Apr 2008 at 5:31 pm ¶Anyway, the shoot was to start on May 6th. They mentioned the work and shooting permits, but did not mention anything about having me pay for them. I guess I didn’t get that far in the negotiation. Since they wanted to start on May 6 (next Tuesday) I told them that I was already booked and couldn’t make it. I never heard back from them after that.
Last month I had two emails requesting photo services in europe. The words chosen are kind of unusual, so I disregarded the request. I am finding more people are commenting on it now.
The most recent:
Hello,
My name is Micheal Brown, an Agent with ITGO LIVE MODELING AGENCY.
I had the rare privilege of view your portfolio/profile on portfolios.com and I thought I could seek your interest for a 10 day photography contract in the UK.
If yes, then email me back on itgoliveagency@live.ca and I will fill you in on the details.
Regards,
Br
Posted 28 Apr 2008 at 5:32 pm ¶I had the same experience as Keith.
Posted 28 Apr 2008 at 5:41 pm ¶Looked odd, so I just ignored it.
I don’t get it.
Posted 28 Apr 2008 at 5:44 pm ¶What do they have to gain from this other than finding out if your email address is live unless maybe they want to abduct you once you get to Nigeria or wherever.
Weird.
I got this one below a few weeks ago which seems to be the same or similar to what others are getting. Definitely bogus:
Hello,
I acknowledge the receipt of your mail. My clients said that i should inform you the information that you need for the work.
Neme of the Grope;ZAMZOR INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL.
Your studio will go and cover the event at another location?:seminar halls is located at:483 Great House Road Stratford Hall Stratford, VA 22558.
You have to cover all the photograph event that we need for the 22 days seminar.
And also make sure that you cover all the sensitive photographs so that you will not miss any part of the show.
Time for work from:9am to 2pm every day for the 22 days.
Posted 28 Apr 2008 at 5:45 pm ¶I do appreciate all your effort since my first contact with you. This seminar will be held in 10 states, we have confirmed photographic sessions of two states and we have made out one payment of $10,500 which is deposit for you and of the next location where this seminar will hold after your state.
The certified cheque that was endorsed by the our president today is to cover your total cost and that of your counterpart. You are hereby required to confirm that once you receive this cheque, you will pay it into your account, deduct 5,000 as your deposit and forward the balance(5,500) to your counterpart.
Hence, I will need your urgent response to this mail confirming that you will handle this matter as instructed.SO provide me.
(1)your name as i will write it on the cheque
(2) your address where i will send the cheque and
(3) your phone number so that we can have easy communication.
PLEASE NOTE THAT YOUR BALANCE WILL BE WHEN THE DELEGATES ARRIVED TO YOUR STATE.
Kind regards,
Mr Willson Richard Terry
My favorite part of the Michael Brown email - which I also received - was that
“all necessary photo gadgets will be supplied”
I responded as politely as possible letting him know that not only was I booked already but that I had my suspicions he was a scam artist.
Never heard back from him.
Posted 28 Apr 2008 at 6:17 pm ¶It’s known as “Advance Fee Fraud” and is easy to spot once you know what to look for. More info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance_fee_fraud
Posted 28 Apr 2008 at 6:19 pm ¶Wow…that is totally crazy. I’ve heard of these scams before. Let’s hope that no photographer falls for their tricks.
Thanks for the post. I’ve found your blog to be very useful lately.
This is my first comment to your blog, but I’ve been reading your posts every day. You do a good job with the site - hopefully you’ll be able to profit from this blog soon.
My blog if your interested is: http://pressworm.blogpost.com
*I haven’t developed my photography website yet - working on it, but I should have it done either mid-May or the latest early June.
-Carlos
Posted 28 Apr 2008 at 6:28 pm ¶Same Experience this past week. “photo gadgets”, 22K pounds, and T-mobile”. Here’s the full email:
Thanks for indicating interest to be a part of this epoch making shoot session.
This session is being together by (T-MOBILE TELECOMMUNICATIONS), a household name in Telecommunication.
For this Job, some home based Models and Photographers have already been contracted but the Company wants this shoot to have a bit of International feel which is why our Agency have been saddled with the responsibility of providing a few International Photographers which is why you were contacted.
The contract sum for this Job is 22,000 Pounds and a daily allowance of 100 Pounds.
All you are required to provide for this Job are a VALID PASSPORT, A UK WORK PERMIT AND
A UK PHOTOGRAPHY LICENSE (from the British Home Office here in the UK), that is if you have never had a paid Job in the UK.
For this Job you will be required to work with the Home based and International Models that have and will be contracted in very choice and picturesque Locations such as beaches, hilltops and fashionable parks and environs.
You are to know that all your traveling expenses will also be covered and you will also receive an upfront payment of 50% as soon as acquire the needed documents that will stand as proof that you will really honor the contract.
If you wish, you can come with your personal photography gadgets but note that the Client will also be providing the needed gadgets.
Kindly note this Job is billed to kick off in the last week of April 2008 so we require your utmost dedication and allegiance.
Let me know if you require any other info.
Regards,
Hilary Mbeki.
+44 704 576 5852.
http://newagetalentagency.7p.com
It’s obvious, but fun to play with them to see how long they will string it along.
Posted 28 Apr 2008 at 6:30 pm ¶I have had two such emails over the last3 months. I write back in both and cc it to Interpol. Have not had anything more to date. I think it came off creativeheads.net as it was only after placing my details on there site I was contacted. I mean no disrespect to creativeheads.net…
Posted 28 Apr 2008 at 6:35 pm ¶Yep, I got this a couple of weeks ago. They said they found me through Workbook. I accidentally replied without writing anything … and they replied to that saying it was for T-Mobile. But the link they gave was for a lame model recruiting site or something. It just seemed fishy so I knew it wasn’t legit.
Posted 28 Apr 2008 at 7:06 pm ¶Here’s the one I received:
Hello,
Posted 28 Apr 2008 at 7:07 pm ¶My name is roger Harris,33 Male from London,England Am freelance modeling agent working for Glamour Magazine in recruiting models, Make Up artist and Hair stylist,I’m currently recruiting models for a special edition of the magazine which will take place withing the 3rd week of Dec. 2007 . I need a photographer in the US to work with. I saw your profile while surfing the Internet, I appreciate your profile and I would like us to do some works together,I presently have good offer for you. I want to know if you are interested in working with us in this End of the year edition of Glamour Magazine.
Please let me know if you are interested in the Job. You stand a chance of making reasonable $1650 from this deal,and even a noticeable fame. Let me know if you are interested in my offer and I would give you further details.
Get back to me as soon as possible.
Best Regards
Roger Harris
http://www.glamourmagazine.co.uk
Another variation is an offer of a shoot in your local area, where they will send a deposit or offer the full fee, where you would keep half the fee if the shoot is cancelled. The shoot would then be cancelled and they would ask that the half be returned. The original check was bogus and will bounce in about 45 days, but because of a kink in the banking system it appears to have gone through during that time. If you send the refund, you will be out that amount when the check clearing system finally runs its course and debits the bogus check amount.
As other posters have commented, the language cues and non-industry terms tend to give them away.
Posted 28 Apr 2008 at 7:09 pm ¶man… I can’t even get a spam offer for a job! how lame!
Posted 28 Apr 2008 at 7:24 pm ¶I haven’t experienced this one, but a few months ago I was nearly scammed on a fine-art print order… a good sized print order came in through my website - a week later I received a cashiers check for almost double the amount of my invoice. The “client” wrote to explain that they were moving and her husband mistakenly included the shippers’ fee in my check… could I please wire the difference to the shipper so they could get started. I was totally suspicious but when the check cleared I was more convinced that it was an honest error. Just to make sure I checked with my bank and indeed, while they made the funds available, it can take up to 2 weeks for a check to clear. Sure enough, 10 days later all the money was deducted from my account. Luckily, all I lost was some time.
Posted 28 Apr 2008 at 7:27 pm ¶I got a few of these; they were pretty obviously bogus, like the ones mentioned above. Has anyone seen this site: http://www.419eater.com/ ?
Posted 28 Apr 2008 at 7:54 pm ¶The genius behind it has done very elaborate, often hilarious, pranks on people that were trying to scam him. It’s definitely worth a look.
Hasn’t happened to me, but thanks for the heads up
Posted 28 Apr 2008 at 9:12 pm ¶These scams have been going on for awhile in the wedding industry. They target photographers, florists, DJs, you name it. It’s interesting to see that they are progressing into commercial photography as well. The three red flags are 1. The language in emails or on the phone is just a little off. 2. Very little attention to details concerning the finished images. 3. Asking for or sending you money. Generally if you trace the IP address back it’s from Nigeria or Benin were the majority of these scams originate. If it just doesn’t feel right it’s probably not. If you have time on your hands it can be rewarding to string the crooks along for a few weeks. Jim mentioned http://www.419eater.com, also http://www.scambaiter.com these sites are excellent sources of information and inspiration for scambaiting.
Posted 28 Apr 2008 at 9:13 pm ¶The lession we can all take from this (and hopefully a painless lesson) is GET EVERYTHING IN WRITING BEFORE PROCEEDING.
Posted 28 Apr 2008 at 10:38 pm ¶If they refuse to sign then start asking some serious quesitons - both to yourself and to them. If they send you a contract read it CAREFULLY. You wouldn’t believe what they try to get away with.
One question I had on my mind when offered this is why are they telling me what I would be paid. That “might” work in the editorial world, but not necessarily in the advertising world.
I have a list of questions sitting next to my phone that I ask before seriously thinking about taking any job. This helps me construct an estimate that is realistic and not a waste of time for me or the art buyer.
Here are some:
Name of art director/art buyer with contact info.
Can I see some layouts? (vital if sending an estimate)
Budget (not always given but worth asking)
What is the usage required?
How many other photographers are bidding on this job?
Who pays for models?
Styists, props, ?
Fee breakdown - who pays for what? And is it in writting?
There are many, many other questions on the sheet.
If anyone wants a copy just email me and I’m happy to send it to you - keith@keithbarraclough.com
I have had this email for the last 2 years.. about 2 or 3 times a month.. I had 4 of them on Friday alone.. They find you if your name is listed in some sources I guess.
Posted 28 Apr 2008 at 10:47 pm ¶I included the email I recieved below. The highlight for me was that it was from none other than Mr. Marcus Garvey himself! Truly an honor. A little research revealed that dozens of other photographers contacted the bogus location in Maryland about the same event which doesn’t even host events like the one described. Enjoy the entertaining read…
-Kiino
Hello,
My name is Mr. Marcus Garvey, I want you to handle of Physics seminar going on round the globe for my clients,which your country is the next place this seminar will take place.
If you are a very good documentary photographer and portrait shooter.
They were non governmental organization by name; THE INTERNATIONAL PEACE MOVEMENT with sole ambition of bringing peace to the world,
I will be happy to discuss this more with you. by day rate for documentary photography that is not going to be used on the cover of a magazine or newspaper.that is just for images we need for internal use,
You will go and cover the event at another location?:seminar halls is
located at:483 Great House Road Stratford Hall Stratford, VA 22558.
This seminar will start from 1st June to 22 June same month in the year 2008. Get back to me with your total cost for the 22 days.
So we can get this done. confirmation that you will be free to handle this project.i find your email from : photoserve.com
You can call me to confirm:+447045708395.
32 Liverpool Avenue, Doncaster,
Posted 28 Apr 2008 at 11:08 pm ¶South Yorkshire, DN2
Mobile:+44-7045-708-395
Fax:+44-7006-069-192.
Kind regards,
Mr. Marcus Garvey
I got the same exact email that Keith got early on, and responded the same with nothing back from them. Funny because the article photo serve did on the campaign I shot was for the US Postal Inspection, a PSA against email scam and mail fraud. Funny…
Posted 29 Apr 2008 at 12:45 am ¶Until recently I did not have similar problems.
Posted 29 Apr 2008 at 2:47 am ¶More than that is to my huge surprise (!!!) one American business monthly magazune has paid to me for three photo-session of persons of business though in a sketch one my photo has been printed only - for me in this situation it is a point of peak of correct work of the photoeditor with photographers! (-thanks Thos!)
With the American and European editions till now all cooperation was successful and correct, I can not complain. I do not take in calculation single letter which ask - to depart to the Chechen Republic and to make a portrait of the hero of national war, or the request for my photos on a mobile phone (I such and are not present:)) - all this the spam and seriously concerns to it it is not necessary.
Last my case not payments of money for work was just in my country :), I have worked on shooting of a film of one and a half month (-practically daily shoot the reporting) and producer have not paid me of any money.. It was necessary to give these photos to photobank and to wait “a small fish” for purchases of these photos in a photo bank.
To such situations at me in the my country it is necessary to be ready, and I try to not do from this tragedy and more quickly to forget it whenever possible, and to return to a business channel of other work.
Sorry my bad English.
Knowing who your working for is a no brainer really.
Posted 29 Apr 2008 at 4:13 am ¶The real scams are the ones that have a high percentage of working:- photo competitions and many pay for review, its the ability to get, “names” involved and the concept of prestige, importance and ego that makes it all work. Its interesting to see some of your fellow bloggers getting involved. Those who engage in this are gambling and the odds are against them.
Rob can start photoscam.com
Hello,
My name is Henry James,i work with Manhattan Construction Company and am a citizen of USA ,the company that i work for we have a big contract in NEW ZEALAND to build a petroleum refinary for the country and there i met my finacce Susan.
We are planning to have our wedding in June 20th 2008 which is on friday.
Posted 29 Apr 2008 at 6:35 am ¶I would be happy if you can perform on my wedding day and the weeding will held in your city and they are still working on it and as soon as the venue is ready i will let you know.
We will need your services for 4hrs and let me know your fee,we will be in State in may 20th 2008 by then the contract will have been finished.Looking forward to read from
you soon.
I’ve received like 3 o 4 of these over the last 2 years, maybe 2 and a half years. I got pretty excited when I got the 1st one, but I checked it out and found it was a scam in 2 minutes.
Posted 29 Apr 2008 at 6:49 am ¶Funny, I remember in every one of these you could read that of “and even a noticeable fame”. LMAO.
I meant 3 or 4, not 304
Posted 29 Apr 2008 at 6:50 am ¶There are many variations of this type of scam. A couple of years ago, photographers who are members of the SportsShooter.com community were hit with a similar scam for those wanting to “purchase”gear. from the SS classifieds. Basically, the same drill, send a certified check for too much money, ask for the remainder back via check.
The good folks at SportsShooter handled it by allowing members to posts classifieds that could only be responded to by other Sportsshooter members.
I recall seeing a couple of funny variations on the wedding photography theme, really just stupid grammar mistakes. Like, my “wife” and I are getting married and I would like you to fly to “exotic island” and photograph our wedding.
I get these type of letters almost weekly along with the “My Dear Beloved” and “My Husband, the Late Nigerian Dictator”.
Occasionally there is justice for these folks. I have a buddy who is a Federal Assistant D.A., he told me a great story about how one of the Nigerian scamsters made the mistake of purchasing property in the United States with his ill-gotten gains and decided to visit his “property.”
He never made it to customs or immigration. He was greeted by FBI agents and my friend as stepped of the jetway into the terminal. My friend was quite pleased that they had caught one of these guys.
Posted 29 Apr 2008 at 9:37 am ¶This same premise is used for private used car sales. A friend was selling a vintage VW bug, the buyer over paid by a few G’s then asked for the difference back. Fortunately my friend was suspicious and contacted the bank who verified the scam. This happened few years back, before this scam was so popular. My point is be careful with any transaction. Cash money is where it’s at!
Posted 29 Apr 2008 at 10:30 am ¶It seems like these scammers try this trick everywhere they possibly can. I can only guess it works since they keep on trying. If you know what to look for, mainly asking for money or some silly baroque wire transfer or cashier’s check for an incorrect amount and how to even things up–always ending up with you sending them money, it’s pretty obvious. And when you call them on it, such as outright calling them a scammer, they vanish quickly.
Posted 29 Apr 2008 at 10:41 am ¶The trick to uncovering these scams is to look at the language used. 99% of the time the scammers are Nigerian. They just are, there’s no hiding that fact. Their choice of English sounding names is often quite hilarious as is their grammar.
Also check the address of the “agency” on Google Maps or similar. It won’t exist.
They are getting more sophisticated and are now setting up websites to trick us into thinking their “cause” or agency is bona-fide.
Caveat Emptor everyone.
PP
Posted 29 Apr 2008 at 10:56 am ¶I received a version of the Cheque refund scam a while ago. I received several offers to photograph a wedding out of the country, It seemed super shady and thankfully I was aware of similar scams at the time. About two months later I received an almost identical (to the word) offer from a different e-mail address.
Some people just don’t know when to quit.
Posted 29 Apr 2008 at 11:08 am ¶There’s no end to the attempts. For chuckles, enjoy reading some of the “fighting back”…maybe even a photo essay in there. See here: http://www.419eater.com/
Posted 29 Apr 2008 at 11:21 am ¶I think it is the rare instance when one gets a call out of the blue offering to fork over money and jobs. If I get a call from an unknown I always ask how they got my name. For the especially suspicious I say I only work on referral. Any reputable client who will potentially offer you a great job will not even discuss job details until they fully vet you or have a strong referral from someone that you have already worked with. Whenever I’ve gotten the call that starts with “this will be great for you” the red flag goes up.
With that said, I received this the other day:
“I am David Wong, an attorney at law. A deceased client of mine, shares the same last name as yours.I have contact you as his next of kin because he left some money behind which will be confiscated. Contact me for more information via E-mail linkwongdavid@hotmail.com
Wormest Regards”
Kind of makes you feel worm all over doesn’t it?
Posted 29 Apr 2008 at 12:28 pm ¶This was the intro I got to get my interest:
“Hello,
My name is Mr. Hilary Mbeki, an Agent with NEWAGE
TALENT AGENCY UK.
I had the rare privilege of view your
portfolio/profile on blackbook.com and I thought I
could seek your interest for a 10 day photography
contract in the UK.
If yes, then email me back on
hilary_newage_agency@hotmail.com and I will fill you
in on the details.
Regards,
Hilary.”
The shoot was supposedly a 10 day shoot in London and the UK for T-Mobile. The fee was 22,000 pounds or $44,000 plus air and assistants. It sounded legit, but when they wanted me to cover half the fee for the attorney who would provide the work permit AND I was to wire the money to them Western Union, that’s when I knew it was a scam.
I also asked for names of the client, art director, art buyer…anyone that might be legit and couldn’t get a name from them.
Very sad that people like this are out there.
Posted 29 Apr 2008 at 1:01 pm ¶419 is amazing.
Posted 29 Apr 2008 at 1:27 pm ¶and the fact that they never asked for a bid for these high paying jobs didn’t raise any eyebrows?
Posted 29 Apr 2008 at 3:43 pm ¶Yep! I got this message today and it looked like an obvious scam. Googled the agency and saw your site. Thanks.
Hello,
My name is Micheal Brown, an Agent with ITGO LIVE MODELING AGENCY.
I had the rare privileage of view your portfolio/profile on http://www.agpix.com and I thought I could seek your interest for a 10 day photography contract in the UK.
If yes, then email me back on itgoliveagency@live.ca and I will fill you in on the details.
Regards,
Posted 29 Apr 2008 at 8:59 pm ¶Brown.
+44 704 576 6033
i received a few of those recently, stemming off my images on..
- photoserve
- photographers direct
- blackblook
the classic line, ‘i had the rare privlidge to see your work’.
Rob Casey
Posted 29 Apr 2008 at 10:50 pm ¶I usally receive 1 or 2 scam email every month, only few of them are well written. I believed that this kind of email were sent only to non english speaking photgraphers…
Posted 30 Apr 2008 at 12:09 am ¶They find me from Google.
Same thing here, twice. First to shoot a series of hotels “in your country” the second to shoot a physics conference “in your city”. Very rare that I get a client offer to pay an advanced fee, unheard of it to be in the initial email - instant scam alert.
Local producers I work with over here have also alerted me to another scam, a little more cunning and harder to pick out. It involves a documentary or commercial production company contacting you in order to have you do the local production for a job they have lined up with whoever or whatsit. Emails bounce back and forth, locations locked down, talent booked and so on and so on then the all of a sudden they need your help to secure visas for entry into (in this case) Japan. If you go through with it the next thing you know Immigration are knocking on your door concerning a little problem with the people who’s visa you sponsored disappearing. Not a nice place to be. Not the kind of thing you fall for twice.
Posted 30 Apr 2008 at 5:06 am ¶Hello, just got one of the Michael Brown come to UK for a 10 day photo shoot… thought it was bogus from the start, glad i goggled the ITGO model agency and your site came up.. read the comments and remembered last summer someone wanted to have me shoot a gathering for his 86 yr old mother… he would send money even more so and i could send a small amount to his sister to start the rent of the chairs ect…hmmm i thought… any one asking for a small amount to be sent raises the radar on me.. so i said sure send the money and in 2 weeks i would send the sister her share… never heard from them
Posted 30 Apr 2008 at 10:25 am ¶great site keep an eye out for us
Michael
Hey Rob, I have received probably over 30 of these fake job email requests over the past years. I helped a fellow photographer catch one before it was too late. He is a fine art photographer and received a check and he was suppose to pay the shipper from this. It sounded strange to me and suggested to take it to the bank and have them track it. It was fake and the scammers called him a bunch of times asking him to cash it. He played it out for awhile to mess with them and told him he sent the money. They started to get aggressive and we would just laugh at them over the phone. They stopped calling. Then, I heard another photo friend of mine got scammed, over a wedding email. So watch the wedding scam too. I never went for any of these because the written English was terrible, or the way they described the job (not in industry lingo) or the ad mock ups were so bad (a child could do better). One was from Mexico and that was pretty obvious that it was a scam. I looked up their website and called. I didn’t get an agency saying “so and so can I help you”, I got “hello”. Crazy NO? I can send you the PDF if you want to post it?
Thanks for all your work, Rob you rock! I LOVE THIS BLOG!
Cheers, Dawn Kish
Posted 30 Apr 2008 at 11:04 am ¶Love google for this. And, I’d never heard of the scam before this (thought that Nigerian one was long dead) so it’s good to keep getting the word out. Post any variations you get here so google can find it.
Posted 30 Apr 2008 at 11:17 am ¶I had some success by posting these scams as soon as I received them on the ASMPNorCal website forum I built.
The lesson - you will get a ton of traffic if you post these scams *verbatim* on your websites because people will google the names and phone numbers in the emails to verify when they have doubts. Post enough of the scams and the scammers might just stop pestering you.
Check out the responses that some of the scams I posted got - incredible that working photographers would fall for this stuff - but I’m happy that they didn’t get duped.
http://asmpnorcal.org/drupal/?q=node/437
As for the creepy scams like the one on this thread where you are actually talking to someone - I had one of those awhile back to photograph an island in the Caribbean for a real estate development. Pretty revolting spending time on the phone with somebody doing their best to deceive you - again, google to the rescue on this one - no links or information he gave checked out as legit on google.
Posted 30 Apr 2008 at 1:36 pm ¶> Hello,
Posted 30 Apr 2008 at 1:45 pm ¶>
> My name is Chris Kirkland, an Agent with ITGO LIVE MODELING AGENCY.
>
> I had the rare privilege of viewing your portfolio/profile on http://www.portfolios.com and I thought I could seek your interest for a 10 day photography contract in the UK.
>
> If yes, then email me back on itgoliveagency@googlemail.com and I will fill you in on the details.
>
> Regards,
> Chris.
> +44 704 571 6167.
Hello,
My name is Chris Kirkland, an Agent with ITGO LIVE MODELING AGENCY.
I had the rare privilege of viewing your portfolio/profile on http://www.portfolios.com and I thought I could seek your interest for a 10 day photography contract in the UK.
If yes, then email me back on itgoliveagency@googlemail.com and I will fill you in on the details.
Regards,
Posted 30 Apr 2008 at 2:04 pm ¶Chris.
+44 704 571 6167.
Just redeived the same e-mail. My address was skimmed from correspondence I was having with a friend. I can tell because the their e-mail address shortcut for me is unique, and that is what showed in the “To:” heading.
Creepy!
Posted 30 Apr 2008 at 2:17 pm ¶The range of tricks that scammers will try is endless. I played along with one scam from England that went on for months and ended quite nicely when 2 counterfeit AMEX travelers cheques for $3000.00 US showed up in an envelope postmarked from Nigeria with no return address.
The cheques were bad photocopies that were obviously manipulated. I contacted AMEX security in the States and they were very very interested in getting ahold the the cheques and the counterfeiters. ( happy to share what they looked like with anyone)
The commercial crime division of the RCMP said it happens way too frequently and they simply do not have the resources to chase these sorts of crimes overseas.
Only takes a instant and gut response to know its a scam. Just like the bad “real” clients that have something to hide…
Blogs like this are a great help in getting the word out and found it after googling “ITGO LIVE….” when I received Mr Brown’s email.
Thanks for the good work!
Posted 30 Apr 2008 at 2:39 pm ¶REally hate these things…got one today. Sent him back a nasty note.
My name is Micheal Brown, an Agent with ITGO LIVE MODELING AGENCY.
I had the rare privileage of view your portfolio/profile on photosource-enhanced.com and I thought I could seek your interest for a 10 day photography contract in the UK.
If yes, then email me back on itgoliveagency@live.ca and I will fill you in on the details.
Regards,
Posted 30 Apr 2008 at 2:41 pm ¶Brown.
+44 704 576 6033
Yes I just received this same email and sounded very fishy to me:
Hello,
My name is Micheal Brown, an Agent with ITGO LIVE MODELING AGENCY.
I had the rare privileage of view your portfolio/profile on photosource-enhanced.com and I thought I could seek your interest for a 10 day photography contract in the UK.
If yes, then email me back on itgoliveagency@live.ca and I will fill you in on the details.
Regards,
Brown.
+44 704 576 6033
Thank you to others who post and make it easy to figure out that these things are a scam.
Posted 30 Apr 2008 at 3:01 pm ¶Same one everyone got!!
Hello,
My name is Micheal Brown, an Agent with ITGO LIVE MODELING AGENCY.
I had the rare privileage of view your portfolio/profile on photosource-enhanced.com and I thought I could seek your interest for a 10 day photography contract in the UK.
If yes, then email me back on itgoliveagency@live.ca and I will fill you in on the details.
Regards,
Posted 30 Apr 2008 at 3:37 pm ¶Brown.
+44 704 576 6033
I just received the e-mail message from Michael Brown requesting that I do 10 day shoot in the UK, fee’s 22,000 pounds,,,,same message, same guy. Found me on Photo Source- Enhanced ,,,,he’s was very impressed with the gadgets I use!
Posted 30 Apr 2008 at 4:06 pm ¶Yup…got it also…hope no one is that stupid.
Hello,
My name is Micheal Brown, an Agent with ITGO LIVE MODELING AGENCY.
I had the rare privileage of view your portfolio/profile on photosource-enhanced.com and I thought I could seek your interest for a 10 day photography contract in the UK.
If yes, then email me back on itgoliveagency@live.ca and I will fill you in on the details.
Regards,
Posted 30 Apr 2008 at 4:32 pm ¶Brown.
+44 704 576 6033
The moral of the story is not that there are scams but that everybody should protect themselves from identity theft, which these folks do plenty of as well.
Just make sure your credit report agencies send you email update when your credit report is updated or senses fraudulent activity as well as send premptive letters to all three major credit agencies(templates here:http://www.idtheftcenter.org).
You can do this at:
http://www.FreeCreditReport.com
http://www.myfico.com
and others, usually it is a very cheap service you should carry just like you should business insurance or medical insurance. If the scammers have your email, they can also get a hold of your identity. Period. You can also buy identity theft insurance but that seems like overkill…..
As for myself, I don’t care, I don’t even have email……
Posted 30 Apr 2008 at 7:53 pm ¶I Just got one, and it says the same… I knew it it was something like a scam because they are from London and most of this scams says they are from there, the Yahoo email ends on SE and is just too weird clients don’t say that they are not that nice. I hate those scammers they should burn in hell.
Posted 30 Apr 2008 at 9:57 pm ¶I’ve responded to 2 of these types of emails, suspecting they were scams, with the following:
1. I require a signed contract with all details, payments and terms in writing
2. I will not book the shoot until I receive full payment and the funds clear my bank
3. I will not refund or transfer any balance requested
I provided a fairly high estimate for the shoot (200% my normal fee).
I never heard back from either.
Now I just delete them if they aren’t caught by my spam blocker. It takes up enough of my time to deal with legitimate requests.
Posted 30 Apr 2008 at 11:14 pm ¶Hey, I got mine! Seemed fishy so I googled “Itgo Live Modeling Agency UK” and this is the first place I hit. Glad to see I’m not the only one who is cautious. The text has morphed a bit … it’s no longer Micheal Brown. Now it’s Chris Kirkland. Don’t fall for this scam! Here is the full text:
Subject: Photography!!!
From: info_itgolive_modelagency@yahoo.co.uk
Reply-To: itgoliveagency@googlemail.com
Hello,
My name is Chris Kirkland, an Agent with ITGO LIVE MODELING AGENCY.
I had the rare privilege of viewing your portfolio/profile on http://www.portfolios.com and I thought I could seek your interest for a 10 day photography contract in the UK.
If yes, then email me back on itgoliveagency@googlemail.com and I will fill you in on the details.
Regards,
Posted 01 May 2008 at 12:47 am ¶Chris.
+44 704 571 6167.
I received the scam e-mail tonight (4/30/08) and decided to look up the website the sender supposedly “saw” my portfolio on. The give-away in this case is the site supposedly used to view my site is one I never use. Additionally, when clicking on the site they post (www.portfolios.com) it gives a redirect to another site (http://www.creativeshake.com/).
Typically I do not open these messages in the first place. Tonight I found it in my junk mail file and thought I’d see what the latest scam going around is. I am copying the text of the message, along with the scammers’ contact information as posted in the message.
Beware! I recommend, as do others, simply ignoring these messages.
The message text follows.
Respectfully,
Richard S. Hockett, MBA, DTM
SunRidge Photo
Hello,
My name is Chris Kirkland, an Agent with ITGO LIVE MODELING AGENCY.
I had the rare privilege of viewing your portfolio/profile on http://www.portfolios.com and I thought I could seek your interest for a 10 day photography contract in the UK.
If yes, then email me back on itgoliveagency@googlemail.com and I will fill you in on the details.
Regards,
Posted 01 May 2008 at 2:17 am ¶Chris.
+44 704 571 6167.
same scam for photographers. Here is a copy of the email. It is important we pass this information along!
“Hello Tatiana,
Thanks for indicating interest to be a part of this epoch making shoot session.
This session is being together by GREG TANN BOUTIQUE UK (GTB), a yet to be launched Clothesline in the UK.
For this Job, some home based Models and Photographers have already been contracted but the Company wants this shoot to have a bit of International feel which is why our Agency have been saddled with the responsibility of providing a few International Photographers which is why you were contacted.
The contract sum for this Job is 22,000 Pounds and a daily allowance of 100 Pounds.
All you are required to provide for this Job are a VALID PASSPORT, A UK WORK PERMIT AND
A UK PHOTOGRAPHY LICENSE (from the British Home Office here in the UK), that is if you have never had a paid Job in the UK.
For this Job you will be required to work with the Home based and International Models that have and will be contracted in very choice and picturesque Locations such as beaches, hilltops and fashionable parks and environs.
You are to know that all your traveling expenses will also be covered and you will also receive an upfront payment of 50% as soon as acquire the needed documents that will stand as proof that you will really honor the contract.
If you wish, you can come with your personal photography gadgets but note that the Client will also be providing the needed gadgets.
Kindly note this Job is billed to kick off 9th/10 of May 2008 so we require your utmost dedication and allegiance.
Let me know if you require any other info.
Regards,
Posted 01 May 2008 at 2:53 am ¶Chris Kirkland.
+44 704 571 6167
http://itgolivemodelingagency.itgo.com
http:gtb.com (UNDER CONSTRUCTION)”
A couple of weeks ago. Figured it was a scam but also spoke with a handful of Brits who pretty much helped to confirm it. Sent a nasty email to the scamster and called it a day.
Posted 01 May 2008 at 11:52 am ¶This scam email came to me this morning. Thanks for all the posts. I plan to sign them up for every junk email possible..lol
Full Email:
Hello ,
Thanks for the quick response and interest.The taken shots and pictures will be used for the magazine cover of my client whose website is http://www.glamourmagazine.co.uk.It has just been established in the United Kingdom also.Presently the company needs a photographer for next month’s edition and i’m giving you the offer.Your Jobs will be exhibited on their website and also after the first set of pictures are being sent.
Their magazines will be sent to you in order for you to know about the company.Subsequently depending on how you fit this suits , you could be invited over to the company to sign a contract with us.The location of the shoots will be somewhere close to where you are located.There is an assigned make up artist for the project.As soon as we agree, the Make up artist will get in touch with you to agree on the location, date and time of the shoots.
As written in my previous mail, you will get $500 to start with,which will be sent to you immediately. After payment has been received, the photo shoots can be taken and sent to the company. There will be a pre-arranged hair/ make up artist,including the models,that will be coming over to you for the shoots. They will be contacting you for proper arrangement of time and location after payments has been made. Guess the arrangement is understood?In order for payment to be made to you,provide me with the following details so we can mail you the payment:
FULL NAME:
FULL HOME ADDRESS:
CITY:
STATE:
ZIP CODE:
HOUSE PHONE NUMBER:
CELL PHONE:
Warmest Regards
Robbin Ajian
+447024042820
—–Original Message—–
From: robbin ajian
To: sfspencer1@columbus.rr.com <—- not me
Sent: Thu, 1 May 2008 5:56 am
Subject: photoghraper ’s job offer
Hello,
My name is Robbin Ajian i am a freelance modeling agent working for Glamour magazine in New York,recruiting models for Essentials Magazine and currently wanting photographers for shoots for a new and special edition of the magazine.I saw your profile and pictures while surfing the internet, I appreciate them and I would like us to do some work together.I presently have a good offer for you. I want to know if you are interested in doing a photography job with us because I need photographers with good working experience who can take superb shots of models who will be on the magazine cover of one of next month’s edition.Please let me know if you are interested in the Job. You stand a chance of making a reasonable $500 from this deal to start,and even a noticeable fame. Let me know if you are interested by mailing me with your acceptance and I would give you further details and you can as well visit the website….
http://www.glamourmagazine.co.uk
If interested,Get back to us with the information below
Photographers only
Name:
age:
Gender:
Ethnicity:
Professional information:
Regards
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Hey all,
I got the same scam this morning. It looked fishy so I just googled the “modeling agency” and viola! here you are. Good work and thanks for posting.
Hello,
My name is Chris Kirkland, an Agent with ITGO LIVE MODELING AGENCY.
I had the rare privilege of viewing your portfolio/profile on http://www.blackbook.com and I thought I could seek your interest for a 10 day photography contract in the UK.
If yes, then email me back on itgo.liveagency@yahoo.se and I will fill you in on the details.
Regards,
Posted 01 May 2008 at 3:10 pm ¶Chris.
+44 704 571 6167.
I just got one of these too!
Posted 01 May 2008 at 8:21 pm ¶Thank you all for sharing. It cleared a lot of things.
I actually talked to Michael Brown today. Wanted to see how far he would take it, and yes, he actually called me to discuss “the shoot”. Got quite agressive, asking me to “just sign the contract and send it back to me…”
Crazy.
Posted 02 May 2008 at 2:48 am ¶@ 67: You got him to call you ! Smart work. I hope you kept him on the phone for a while at transatlantic rates.
There is a rather brilliant site all about scams - here is a page with tips on how to deal with them:
http://www.419eater.com/html/baiting.htm
It mainly deals with the 419 scams that mostly seem to come from Nigeria (”My name in Mbutu Ombekale and I am the Prince of Nigeria and would like to give you $8,000,000″) but a 419 scam is basically “advance fee fraud” and this seems to be the same idea, pretty much.
The “scambaiters” on the site basically try to get the scammers to waste as much time and money as possible - even to the point where they arrange to meet them at the airport, or send them photographs of themselves holding signs saying stupid things or doing stupid things. One guy even got a scammer to send him a dollar, as proof of his trustworthiness. Look at the “Trophy Room” section of that site if you fancy a laugh.
So go for it - BAIT THEM. Get them to send you stuff. Or even tell them “Hey that’s great, I will be in the UK next week on a shoot - maybe we could meet up?”
Can anyone get better than a phone call ?
RDP
Posted 02 May 2008 at 5:42 am ¶Here’s the version we received:
From: Micheal Brown
Date: April 30, 2008 4:51:36 AM GMT-07:00
To: XXXXXXX@raineystudios.com
Subject: PHOTOGRAPHY!!!
Reply-To: itgoliveagency@live.ca
Hello,
My name is Micheal Brown, an Agent with ITGO LIVE MODELING AGENCY.
I had the rare privileage of view your portfolio/profile on
photosource-enhanced.com and I thought I could seek your interest for a 10
day
photography contract in the UK.
If yes, then email me back on itgoliveagency@live.ca and I will fill you in
on the details.
Regards,
Posted 02 May 2008 at 1:32 pm ¶Brown.
+44 704 576 6033
Same here, funny enough i have gotten two of them and i have been barely in business a year, maybe they are targeting new comers:
Dear Gustavo Fernandez,
My name is Brian. I am Supervising Events Planner/Promoter with Karavan Evento Creatore. We are seeking to employ the services of a professional Photographer in an up-coming event in Manchester,UK.
The dates are 8th and 9th of May 2008. The photographer will be taking photo shots of participants, Location(landscaping), Building(s) interior, Refreshments. Time frame will be 4 hours daily. The event is a two days long Alumni class re-union and retreat. An estimate of 150 people are expected to be in attendance. The location will be a 6 acres ranch in the UK. And the photographer will be shooting during the day.(morning, noon, afternoon)
We initially booked a photographer, but he(the photographer) canceled due to some unforeseen circumstances. That if why we have to get a replacement within the limited time frame.
Karavan Evento Creatore is a new and registered events management company. I co-own it with a friend. We currently work on contract bases. Our official website should be up and running in some weeks.
Because of the time constraint, we will appreciate your quick response. Considering this will be your first work with us(should you agree, and we are satisfied with your works), you will only be documenting the event.
If you will be available on this dates, and are interested, kindly send us a some of your previous works. This may be a link to your website, or an email of your recent works.
I look forward to hearing from you soon.
Best regards,
Brian Woods (Supervisor)
+447024071784
For: Karavan Evento Creatore
and the second…
My name is Theodore Purcell and I am a geologist and I work with an oil servicing company here in our Aberdeen branch as field supervisor.I met my wife who is a south African last year and we would like to seal it this April.
Posted 03 May 2008 at 11:12 am ¶Her parents insisted that we must have a traditional wedding in their and later pick a country of our choice for the church wedding and so we have decided to do it in the US because she has two of her cousins in the STATES and she said it has always been her dreams to wed in the UNITED STATES. So we have chosen somewhere in Columbus, Ohio in USA.
In the light of this, we would need a professional photographer to help us cover the events in there in the state, because we believe it will not be cost wise to include a photographer to the list of people that will be coming for our wedding in the UNITED STATES. As regards, the size of the wedding and the size or dimension of the photograhs to be taken at the event, my planner will be coming over to your office for he will be in the best position to give my requirement and other neccessary details.
1.)So I want to know if you will be available to cover the event which will come up on the 26th of April this year, 2.)You shall be arriving 1 day before the ceremony to avoid dissapointment (It depends)., 3.)I want to know how much you charge for a 6hr coverage excluding transportation and accommodation for it will be taken care., 4.)I want to know your deposit so as to get assured of the date without any form of disappointment.
Due to the nature of my job, i intend paying with a certified cashiers drawn in the US bank and made payable in full to you or your company. If you don’t have problem with that let me have the Full NAME and ADDRESS want the payment mailed to.
Regards,
Theodore Purcell teddy1975p@yahoo.com
Well, that´s why i´m searching for comments about the mentioned e-mail. Of course, yes I´m interested about the job but get very suspicious about it. Chris Kirkland (who rarely coincides with a premier league soccer goalkeeper name) write to me about the job, the 22 k pounds, the 50% upfront, the dates of the kick off 11/12 may 2008, etc.
Posted 04 May 2008 at 2:15 am ¶Thank you for reading your comments. I have not idea that this was a scam because I did not imagine what is the tricky movemente but I clearly see what is the goal.
Nigerians, whatever, any way, like we said here in México: “With money dance the dog” if they sen me documents and I can cash it, well could be serious. If not, what it is, I will not expend a dime on that kind of job.
Thank you to all of your comments.
PS. (Did I write like them? I thought I have an acceptable english but I do not know if you can read my comments and guess that I am from Mexico or another country. (LOL)
I just got this two days ago.
Thanks for indicating interest to be a part of this epoch making shoot session.
This Job is being put together by GREG TANN BOUTIQUE. (A soon to be launched clothing design in the UK).
For this Job, some home based Models and Photographers have already been contracted but the Company wants this shoot to have a bit of International feel which is why our Agency have been saddled with the responsibility of providing a few International Costume, Wardrobe, fashion, lifestyle and Food stylists which is why we contacted you.
Your Job is to provide your professional duties to the Models in the aspect of Fashion, Wardrobe, Costume and Fashion while the Food Stylist will take charge of the food aspect by adding professionalism to the act.
The contract sum for this Job is 22,000 Pounds and a daily allowance of 90 Pounds.
All you are required to provide for this Job are a VALID PASSPORT and A UK WORK PERMIT (from the British Home Office here in the UK), that is if you have never had a paid Job in the UK.
You are to know that all your traveling expenses will also be covered and you will also receive an upfront payment of 50% as soon as acquire the needed document that will stand as proof that you will really honor the contract.
You are eligible to come with all your utensils and 2 personal Assistant and their traveling expenses will also be covered.
Kindly note this Job is billed to kick off 12th/13th of May 2008 so we require your utmost dedication and allegiance.
Let me know if you require any other info.
Regards,
Posted 04 May 2008 at 10:29 pm ¶Justine Fish.
+447045716167.
+447045766033.
http://new-world-talent-agency.webs.com
Let me post you a latest communication I have from ITGO, they did not attach the contract paper yet
Below is all the info you need to proceed:
A UK WORK PERMIT is a document that grants you permission to have a paid Job in the UK which without it, you cannot be gainfully employed in the UK while a UK PHOTOGRAPHY LICENSE qualifies to work as a Photographer in the UK.
Below is the process of obtaining the Permit and License:
Procuring a Regular UK work Permit and a UK Photography License are quite easy but takes a whole lot of time say 3-4 weeks for the Permit and 2-3 weeks for the License and such time we do not have.
But it could both be gotten in 3-4 working days. All that you need to do is to employ the Services of a UK based Attorney who will apply for an Expedited Permit and License on your behalf with a letter of Recommendation form the company offering the Job and the Application will be done in the British Home office here in the UK and the office of the PPA (PROFFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHERS ASSOCIATION.) the body in charge of all acts of photography in the UK.
But this is done for a fee that the company will foot 50% of the fee while you will foot the balance 50% as a sign of commitment on your part to honor the Job because we have had cases in the past when Client pay for all that is required and employees end up not showing up after giving some flimsy excuses so as a measure to curb such excesses it was agreed that employees pay something so that they will be obliged not to breach the contract.
And note that once you have procured the above documents, they become your SOLE PROPERTY which means in a case where you are to pick up any Modeling Job in the UK in future you will not have to go through this process again which is also part of the reason you are paying part of the charges.
So if you are down with this you can do well to contact any UK based Attorney of your choice but if that will be much trouble, we will recommend an Attorney for you.
I have attached a review copy of the contract paper for you to view and have a clearer picture.
Regards,
Chris Kirkland.
+44 704 571 6167.
Posted 05 May 2008 at 1:03 am ¶Hello,
My names are James Brown; I want to reserve you as a photographer that can cover our forth coming crusade in your state. This crusade will last for six days starting from August 21st each session of the crusade will last for 5hours.
I will want you to get back to me with your total cost. Please bear in mind that our group will take care of your transportation, feeding and lodging accommodation.
Thanks and God bless you.
James Brown
Posted 05 May 2008 at 4:27 am ¶Cell: +44 70457 90076
Tel: +44-702-409-3067
Fax: +44-700-596-1818
Faith Ministries
209 Wood Street, Upper Walthamstow,
London E17 3NU
I got a version of the print sales scam recently. The first one was pretty basic to get you to reply;
Hello and gooday
My name is Greg and i am interested in your photography,i would like to know if your photography is available for purchase,also if you are wondering what i need your prints for,well i need them for my personal use to decorate my newly furnished apartment i just aquired so therefore i would be needing the prints frammed,so let me know whats sizes of prints could be made because i would prefer 16×20,so thanks a lot and hope to read from you asap,also please please try to resend your website adress again because i would like to verify somethings,have a blessed day and patiently await your response
regards
Greg
I emailed some basic info over and the reply alerted you to the scam. I get print sales requests often enough to know the real ones, but when they mention things like ‘my shipment broker in the uk’, thats when you know.
Their reply was;
Hello dear Micheal
thanks a lot for your e-mail i really appreciate it,please note and have it in mind that i would be needing the following prints below in size 16×20 and i would like to have them frammed,because as i said earlier i would be needing them for my personal use to decorate my new apartment i just aquired in spain here.
as regards shipment of the prints dont worry about that because my shipment broker in the uk there would come over to your place to pick up the prints after you must have recieved funds/payment for them because he has some other fixtures and furnitures that i just orderd to pick up for me alongside this prints i would like to order/purchase.
—–
So I guess then they send you a cheque accidentally including the shipping, which you then have to refund to them…..
Posted 05 May 2008 at 7:13 am ¶Hey all,
I am a NY based stylist and just received this scam email a few days ago (see below). Thanks to your postings I can see it is scam although I was weary about it upon receipt.
Hello Zulma,
Thanks for indicating interest to be a part of this epoch making
shoot session.
This Job is being put together by GREG TANN BOUTIQUE. (A soon
to be launched clothing design in the UK).
For this Job, some home based Models and Photographers have
already been contracted but the Company wants this shoot to
have a bit of International feel which is why our Agency have
been saddled with the responsibility of providing a few
International Costume, Wardrobe, fashion, lifestyle and Food
stylists which is why we contacted you.
Your Job is to provide your professional duties to the Models in
the aspect of Fashion, Wardrobe, Costume and Fashion while the
Food Stylist will take charge of the food aspect by adding
professionalism to the act.
The contract sum for this Job is 22,000 Pounds and a daily
allowance of 90 Pounds.
All you are required to provide for this Job are a VALID
PASSPORT and A UK WORK PERMIT (from the British Home
Office here in the UK), that is if you have never had a paid Job in
the UK.
You are to know that all your traveling expenses will also be
covered and you will also receive an upfront payment of 50% as
soon as acquire the needed document that will stand as proof
that you will really honor the contract.
You are eligible to come with all your utensils and 2 personal
Assistant and their traveling expenses will also be covered.
Kindly note this Job is billed to kick off 15th/16th of May 2008 so
we require your utmost dedication and allegiance.
Let me know if you require any other info.
Regards,
Justine Fish.
+447045716167.
http://new-world-talent-agency.webs.com
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