Comments on: Photographer Spam http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/ Photography Director Rob Haggart Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:50:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Scott Lessing http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1502 Scott Lessing Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:28:32 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1502 I agree with I'm Listening. I'd love to send a very personalized portfolio piece out, however they have to be very targeted because the creation of those pieces is expensive. Then you factor in the mailing rate for a heavier piece, it really adds up. I know that if I sent a more compelling, creative piece the response would be more positive. The expense of designing and printing a custom piece is the deterrent. Getting postcards and email links may be boring, but it seems its easier for photographers to do. I agree with I’m Listening. I’d love to send a very personalized portfolio piece out, however they have to be very targeted because the creation of those pieces is expensive. Then you factor in the mailing rate for a heavier piece, it really adds up. I know that if I sent a more compelling, creative piece the response would be more positive. The expense of designing and printing a custom piece is the deterrent. Getting postcards and email links may be boring, but it seems its easier for photographers to do.

]]> By: McLovin http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1426 McLovin Fri, 09 Nov 2007 19:44:53 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1426 I feel that the behavior of Chris Anderson @ Wired magazine is very unprofessional for a editor in chief of such a huge publication. If you don't like receiving emails from photographers why give your email out to companies like Agency Access and Adbase, I'm pretty sure they didn't just take a guess at what your email is. In my opinion if i was a photographer or anyone for that matter who's email was up on the blog with 100's of others just waiting to get picked up by a spam bot, I would personally make sure that Chris's email was on every one of E-Blast lists. I feel that the behavior of Chris Anderson @ Wired magazine is very unprofessional for a editor in chief of such a huge publication. If you don’t like receiving emails from photographers why give your email out to companies like Agency Access and Adbase, I’m pretty sure they didn’t just take a guess at what your email is. In my opinion if i was a photographer or anyone for that matter who’s email was up on the blog with 100’s of others just waiting to get picked up by a spam bot, I would personally make sure that Chris’s email was on every one of E-Blast lists.

]]> By: I'm listening http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1422 I'm listening Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:10:34 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1422 I work with 100's of photographers and I have to say that THEY ARE ALL DOING THE SAME THING. There is a sense of creative lackluster when sending a postcard or email out. Email-Livebooks and postcards. It's really not inspiring. I like the fact that a person will use a photobook, personalize a gift and/or presentation. Then send it. The Shot gun approach is wasted. Unless done in a source book like Black Book, At Edge or whatever else is out there. I work with 100’s of photographers and I have to say that THEY ARE ALL DOING THE SAME THING. There is a sense of creative lackluster when sending a postcard or email out.

Email-Livebooks and postcards. It’s really not inspiring. I like the fact that a person will use a photobook, personalize a gift and/or presentation.

Then send it. The Shot gun approach is wasted. Unless done in a source book like Black Book, At Edge or whatever else is out there.

]]> By: Kevin http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1199 Kevin Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:42:26 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1199 I've only emailed art buyers I've already met. In fact I've only twice even mailed any promotional pieces to anyone I didn't already know, and that mailing was so small and targeted that I had a 30% response rate. That mailing was almost ten years ago. All of my work since then has been by word of mouth. But I don't do much editorial work. It's almost all commercial. I’ve only emailed art buyers I’ve already met. In fact I’ve only twice even mailed any promotional pieces to anyone I didn’t already know, and that mailing was so small and targeted that I had a 30% response rate. That mailing was almost ten years ago.

All of my work since then has been by word of mouth. But I don’t do much editorial work. It’s almost all commercial.

]]> By: A Photographer http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1197 A Photographer Sun, 04 Nov 2007 11:50:16 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1197 I read his post more carefully and realized he's more annoyed at people emailing the wrong person, so I retract some of my previous statement. I do wish, however, that Wired researched their stories more and rehashed company press releases less. I used to love reading the magazine; now I barely look at the cover. I read his post more carefully and realized he’s more annoyed at people emailing the wrong person, so I retract some of my previous statement. I do wish, however, that Wired researched their stories more and rehashed company press releases less. I used to love reading the magazine; now I barely look at the cover.

]]> By: A Photographer http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1196 A Photographer Sun, 04 Nov 2007 11:45:57 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1196 The Dude is right on the credibility thing. If Wired didn't often publish rehashed press releases as "stories" in their magazine, maybe they'd get less spam from PR companies. Remember when there were 20 page researched stories? Now it's one page press releases from corporations. As for Agency Access and Adbase - just ask that your name be removed or you be listed as "doesn't want to receive promos" in the database. OR, if it's a slow news year for you, post a sensationalist story listing people's emails. Yeah - that would be cool. I'd really have more sympathy if they had more credibility. Maybe it's not Chris rehashing press releases, but their reporting is pretty lazy compared to their golden years. The Dude is right on the credibility thing. If Wired didn’t often publish rehashed press releases as “stories” in their magazine, maybe they’d get less spam from PR companies. Remember when there were 20 page researched stories? Now it’s one page press releases from corporations.

As for Agency Access and Adbase - just ask that your name be removed or you be listed as “doesn’t want to receive promos” in the database. OR, if it’s a slow news year for you, post a sensationalist story listing people’s emails. Yeah - that would be cool.

I’d really have more sympathy if they had more credibility. Maybe it’s not Chris rehashing press releases, but their reporting is pretty lazy compared to their golden years.

]]> By: Adam Bird http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1169 Adam Bird Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:14:08 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1169 I am still of the opinion that the entire publishing industry is still trying to figure out what the hell is going on. Newspapers are using more and more stringers, more and more organizations are using random employees with cameras, and nobody has really figured out what the right use of technology is for growing client bases, or for that matter finding photographers. God bless the internet. For most of my clients, I do the old fashioned networking through humans. People, who live, breath, shake hands. I've avoided some really really crap jobs because I visited their plant/office/company/house before agreeing to work. No substitute. When I was working in London I found most photo editors/directors of photography perfectly happy to spend five minutes meeting me and talking to me. Sometimes I got work, sometimes I didn't, but I made a few friends, and the network spread. I *gasp* write letters and cards by hand to my people. Quality versus quantity. Since I'm going to go through and make images carefully, I might as well form a relationship the same way. I am still of the opinion that the entire publishing industry is still trying to figure out what the hell is going on. Newspapers are using more and more stringers, more and more organizations are using random employees with cameras, and nobody has really figured out what the right use of technology is for growing client bases, or for that matter finding photographers. God bless the internet.

For most of my clients, I do the old fashioned networking through humans. People, who live, breath, shake hands. I’ve avoided some really really crap jobs because I visited their plant/office/company/house before agreeing to work. No substitute. When I was working in London I found most photo editors/directors of photography perfectly happy to spend five minutes meeting me and talking to me. Sometimes I got work, sometimes I didn’t, but I made a few friends, and the network spread.

I *gasp* write letters and cards by hand to my people. Quality versus quantity. Since I’m going to go through and make images carefully, I might as well form a relationship the same way.

]]> By: goober http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1123 goober Fri, 02 Nov 2007 08:56:06 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1123 Next thing you know they'll start complaining about all these people posting comments on their blogs, wasting space, just so they can include a link to their website in an act of shameless self promotion. (hire me hire me hire me hire me) Ha ha. Next thing you know they’ll start complaining about all these people posting comments on their blogs, wasting space, just so they can include a link to their website in an act of shameless self promotion.

(hire me hire me hire me hire me)

Ha ha.

]]> By: Doug McGoldrick http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1121 Doug McGoldrick Fri, 02 Nov 2007 02:15:17 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1121 Don't call us and fill our voice mail boxes with messages we'll never return, don't bother to send postcards we don't look at them, you're just wasting paper, and no spam either. Is there a way we can promote ourselves with out making people upset, last year I started taking people to lunch and not even bringing my book along, but it's a pretty pricey way to go about things. I dump 50 or so spam messages a day doesn't seem terribly trouble some to me. Don’t call us and fill our voice mail boxes with messages we’ll never return, don’t bother to send postcards we don’t look at them, you’re just wasting paper, and no spam either. Is there a way we can promote ourselves with out making people upset, last year I started taking people to lunch and not even bringing my book along, but it’s a pretty pricey way to go about things. I dump 50 or so spam messages a day doesn’t seem terribly trouble some to me.

]]> By: anon http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1112 anon Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:55:55 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1112 is it just me or is the photography at onewordphotography.com BBOOORRRIINGGG is it just me or is the photography at onewordphotography.com BBOOORRRIINGGG

]]> By: dude http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1095 dude Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:17:31 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1095 Job tltle isn't a good gauge of relevance for photographers... some magazines don't even have a "photo editor" or a "director of photography" and at some, decisions are frequently made by the editor in chief. At some magazines, the "photo editor" is just an overglorified producer and the "creative director" makes the calls about who is in or out. Same goes for ad agencies - some "art buyers" are producers and "creative directors" make all the creative decisions. Just depends on the agency. That said, yep, he's a jerk. Job tltle isn’t a good gauge of relevance for photographers… some magazines don’t even have a “photo editor” or a “director of photography” and at some, decisions are frequently made by the editor in chief. At some magazines, the “photo editor” is just an overglorified producer and the “creative director” makes the calls about who is in or out. Same goes for ad agencies - some “art buyers” are producers and “creative directors” make all the creative decisions. Just depends on the agency.

That said, yep, he’s a jerk.

]]> By: and you're surprised? http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1085 and you're surprised? Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:56:29 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1085 Chris wrote - "at least with adbase you can select by job title. what agency access….just a big list of names/emails?" No, you can select job titles with agency access also. It's not that much different than adbase just a better interface, in my view. And it's a good list source. (Don't work for them, but have used both.) It all depends how you use it. I like Art Director's post where he says, "Content is key." If useful content and information than what is the issue. And not everyone on Agency Access has an email address because not everyone agrees to have their email address published. Additionally, when I review Chris Anderson's list from over the 30 days, it's hardly 100 spam emails a day, please. And afterall, in some form or fashion Adbase OR Agency Access asks permission to collect this information. At some point he gave them the OK to list his email address. There are plenty of Art Directors on the Agency Access list who have not chose to have their email address listed. I consider his listing these sources email addresses as completely irresponsible and childish. Interesting that some who write in support of him are really just redirecting folks to THEIR blogs, one of which says that WIRED is a dying magazine. I also don't buy that most of these sources don't have easy unsubscribe policies. Most of them are going through constant contact, Emma, or Vertical Response. ALL are a snap to unsubscribe and do not mine you for further emails as he has stated. We aren't talking about Viagra ads here. I call bullshit on this. Most of these are reputable firms. While I'm certain that some of them don't need to be contacting him, I can see how it can happen when he has opted into a legitimate industry list service. He choses to blame the likes of sub-par or temp hires at the list service, and I hope he has something to back that up and that he didn't actually give out his address, or the list service could easily give legal at WIRED a run for their money. In the end this guy comes off as being a jerk. Chris wrote - “at least with adbase you can select by job title. what agency access….just a big list of names/emails?”

No, you can select job titles with agency access also. It’s not that much different than adbase just a better interface, in my view. And it’s a good list source. (Don’t work for them, but have used both.)

It all depends how you use it. I like Art Director’s post where he says, “Content is key.” If useful content and information than what is the issue.

And not everyone on Agency Access has an email address because not everyone agrees to have their email address published.

Additionally, when I review Chris Anderson’s list from over the 30 days, it’s hardly 100 spam emails a day, please. And afterall, in some form or fashion Adbase OR Agency Access asks permission to collect this information. At some point he gave them the OK to list his email address. There are plenty of Art Directors on the Agency Access list who have not chose to have their email address listed.

I consider his listing these sources email addresses as completely irresponsible and childish. Interesting that some who write in support of him are really just redirecting folks to THEIR blogs, one of which says that WIRED is a dying magazine.

I also don’t buy that most of these sources don’t have easy unsubscribe policies. Most of them are going through constant contact, Emma, or Vertical Response. ALL are a snap to unsubscribe and do not mine you for further emails as he has stated. We aren’t talking about Viagra ads here.

I call bullshit on this. Most of these are reputable firms. While I’m certain that some of them don’t need to be contacting him, I can see how it can happen when he has opted into a legitimate industry list service. He choses to blame the likes of sub-par or temp hires at the list service, and I hope he has something to back that up and that he didn’t actually give out his address, or the list service could easily give legal at WIRED a run for their money.

In the end this guy comes off as being a jerk.

]]> By: Adam http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1078 Adam Thu, 01 Nov 2007 12:43:33 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1078 So am I on a list somewhere that is sold to people who email me offering new logo design every day? Photographers get it too. Everyone gets it. So am I on a list somewhere that is sold to people who email me offering new logo design every day?

Photographers get it too. Everyone gets it.

]]> By: Darrell Eager http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1067 Darrell Eager Thu, 01 Nov 2007 04:35:56 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1067 Advertising and magazines are all a bit of spam, yes? Advertising and magazines are all a bit of spam, yes?

]]> By: an art director http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1063 an art director Thu, 01 Nov 2007 01:36:31 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1063 I get spam. Lot's of it. My hubby is a photographer. I understand you all are just trying to get work. But pleeease don't make it suck. I got an email from a rep promoing a photographer, NO PICTURES. I want to see the eye candy for crying out loud! What a waste. I got a good one from a rep: a list and a thumbnail of all the photographers they rep. Cool, one stop shopping. Content is key, there is no 'new images' that I realize are new unless I am following you. But I get 20 emails a day that say 'new' images. Try a spin on some content. It will make you stand out. I get spam. Lot’s of it. My hubby is a photographer. I understand you all are just trying to get work. But pleeease don’t make it suck. I got an email from a rep promoing a photographer, NO PICTURES. I want to see the eye candy for crying out loud! What a waste. I got a good one from a rep: a list and a thumbnail of all the photographers they rep. Cool, one stop shopping.

Content is key, there is no ‘new images’ that I realize are new unless I am following you. But I get 20 emails a day that say ‘new’ images. Try a spin on some content. It will make you stand out.

]]> By: ben roberts http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1055 ben roberts Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:10:56 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1055 damn. he shat on lensmodern.com aswell. there's some damn good photographers with that agency... http://www.lensmodern.com/photographers.php damn. he shat on lensmodern.com aswell. there’s some damn good photographers with that agency…

http://www.lensmodern.com/photographers.php

]]> By: Adam http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1054 Adam Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:51:39 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1054 he he .my last email promo was 17 emails. wow he he .my last email promo was 17 emails. wow

]]> By: Christopher Bush http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1052 Christopher Bush Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:51:02 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1052 But I should add, if your targeted list is 7000+ people, then perhaps more research is needed. My first email blast was 3000, and that was really quite overly broad. My postcard list is in the low hundreds, and the next email blast will probably be under 1000. But I should add, if your targeted list is 7000+ people, then perhaps more research is needed. My first email blast was 3000, and that was really quite overly broad. My postcard list is in the low hundreds, and the next email blast will probably be under 1000.

]]> By: Christopher Bush http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1051 Christopher Bush Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:44:04 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1051 that's one use, yes, but definitely not the best. I wouldn't condemn photographers from subscribing to databases like theirs for targeted promotions and research. that’s one use, yes, but definitely not the best. I wouldn’t condemn photographers from subscribing to databases like theirs for targeted promotions and research.

]]> By: dude http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1049 dude Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:34:52 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1049 Um, this whole thread pretty much illustrates why. You send out 10,000 emails to reach 10 people who can really make a career (who don't respond to spam promotions anyway) and alientate the other 9,990 in the process. Um, this whole thread pretty much illustrates why.

You send out 10,000 emails to reach 10 people who can really make a career (who don’t respond to spam promotions anyway) and alientate the other 9,990 in the process.

]]> By: Christopher Bush http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1047 Christopher Bush Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:20:22 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1047 dude: "Anyone who buys lists from Agency Access is stupid." Explain. dude: “Anyone who buys lists from Agency Access is stupid.”

Explain.

]]> By: dude http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1046 dude Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:09:38 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1046 Wired's credibility went out the window in 2000 (along with the value of "the wired index"), about 2 years after it's photographic style did too (remeber cross-processing?)... Anyone who buys lists from Agency Access is stupid. Anyone who thinks there are 7000 **really influential** image buyers out there is stupid. Anyone who pays $10,000 for lists ain't exactly the brightest bulb in the marquee. APE may be unhappy about the number of unsolicited emails he gets from photographers, agents & PRs but would you rather receive unsolicited faxes, books and calls? Actually, maybe all those PRs should just send press releases to Chris Anderson via fax and **then** see how much he complains about emails. Wired’s credibility went out the window in 2000 (along with the value of “the wired index”), about 2 years after it’s photographic style did too (remeber cross-processing?)…

Anyone who buys lists from Agency Access is stupid. Anyone who thinks there are 7000 **really influential** image buyers out there is stupid. Anyone who pays $10,000 for lists ain’t exactly the brightest bulb in the marquee.

APE may be unhappy about the number of unsolicited emails he gets from photographers, agents & PRs but would you rather receive unsolicited faxes, books and calls?

Actually, maybe all those PRs should just send press releases to Chris Anderson via fax and **then** see how much he complains about emails.

]]> By: myles http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1044 myles Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:45:29 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1044 Yet Another Photographer - Personal blogs may not be the way to find talent but blogs like JM's and Alec Soth(still rip?), personism etc etc are fantastic resources for talent across the board. They are like photo Mavens (Can such a thing exist? sure why not)..so much knowledge and information on them. In a way it (a blog ) is the new format of an old school medium - word of mouth. BTW I agree with Chris' frustration. As a photo editor I would be livid for one if I got 100 fashion releases a day. I also see the frustration in the photographers reasoning. As APE says, spam is spam regardless. The latest VI@gaR@ spam has an opt-out link at them bottom of it as well. PS - Dan, regardless of what agency access says I highly doubt Chris Anderson filled in a questionaire or told some bloke over the phone he was an 'image buyer'...please do not take what these agencies are telling you as truths. But don't get frustrated with lack of replies to calls and emails...and certainly do not take it personally. PSPS - Wired is looking and reading better than it has in years. Yet Another Photographer - Personal blogs may not be the way to find talent but blogs like JM’s and Alec Soth(still rip?), personism etc etc are fantastic resources for talent across the board.

They are like photo Mavens (Can such a thing exist? sure why not)..so much knowledge and information on them. In a way it (a blog ) is the new format of an old school medium - word of mouth.

BTW I agree with Chris’ frustration. As a photo editor I would be livid for one if I got 100 fashion releases a day. I also see the frustration in the photographers reasoning.

As APE says, spam is spam regardless. The latest VI@gaR@ spam has an opt-out link at them bottom of it as well.

PS - Dan, regardless of what agency access says I highly doubt Chris Anderson filled in a questionaire or told some bloke over the phone he was an ‘image buyer’…please do not take what these agencies are telling you as truths. But don’t get frustrated with lack of replies to calls and emails…and certainly do not take it personally.

PSPS - Wired is looking and reading better than it has in years.

]]> By: chris http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1042 chris Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:31:19 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1042 at least with adbase you can select by job title. what agency access....just a big list of names/emails? btw...i also just got an email from AA this afternoon. at least with adbase you can select by job title. what agency access….just a big list of names/emails?
btw…i also just got an email from AA this afternoon.

]]> By: Hatnim http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1039 Hatnim Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:25:45 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1039 applaud for the use of word, "nugget." "I’d say blogs are the future for finding photographers." i am sometimes hesitant at including my blog address because for some reason the word "blog" sounds unprofessional? but, check out my blog fo shizzles. www.hatnimlee.blogspot.com and my webiste... www.hatnimlee.com can you hire me, "a photo editor?" applaud for the use of word, “nugget.”

“I’d say blogs are the future for finding photographers.”

i am sometimes hesitant at including my blog address because for some reason the word “blog” sounds unprofessional?

but, check out my blog fo shizzles.
http://www.hatnimlee.blogspot.com

and my webiste…
http://www.hatnimlee.com

can you hire me, “a photo editor?”

]]> By: Jon Boyes http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1037 Jon Boyes Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:05:21 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1037 "I think it’s just easy to say, “Hey, I’m getting 7000 names, you lay down your credit card, you hit SEND”, then you forget about it, and just assume that these are appropriate people." Isn't that what we pay good money to these lists for? To buy lists of targetted contacts who have indicated they want to receive solicitations from creatives. It would seem that perhaps these lists aren't as vetted and "constantly kept up to date" as we'd like to think... “I think it’s just easy to say, “Hey, I’m getting 7000 names, you lay down your credit card, you hit SEND”, then you forget about it, and just assume that these are appropriate people.”

Isn’t that what we pay good money to these lists for? To buy lists of targetted contacts who have indicated they want to receive solicitations from creatives.

It would seem that perhaps these lists aren’t as vetted and “constantly kept up to date” as we’d like to think…

]]> By: Knicked by Knife http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1036 Knicked by Knife Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:02:37 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1036 In the future, blogs will become old-school and tired, and each commercial photographer will become his own TV Station, and will broadcast his photo sessions live, streaming over the web. Nick Knight started it all, with Show Studio. Nothing's live right now, but sometimes you can tune in, (instead of getting off your ass and shooting a job on your own), and watch him shoot a job, over the web. http://showstudio.com/live/ The ultimate in photo voyeurism. Isn't that Kate or Naomi, with a C-stand over her head...? In the future, blogs will become old-school and tired, and each commercial photographer will become his own TV Station, and will broadcast his photo sessions live, streaming over the web. Nick Knight started it all, with Show Studio. Nothing’s live right now, but sometimes you can tune in, (instead of getting off your ass and shooting a job on your own), and watch him shoot a job, over the web.

http://showstudio.com/live/

The ultimate in photo voyeurism. Isn’t that Kate or Naomi, with a C-stand over her head…?

]]> By: yet another photographer http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1035 yet another photographer Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:54:54 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1035 Question to APE- How is a blog going to be anymore successful for you to find talent than a shooters web site? Maybe you were just kidding? Question to APE- How is a blog going to be anymore successful for you to find talent than a shooters web site? Maybe you were just kidding?

]]> By: john mcd. http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1034 john mcd. Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:35:55 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1034 p.s.-as I was writing I got an e-mail solicitation from Agency Access. the same one sent to me twice. p.s.-as I was writing I got an e-mail solicitation from Agency Access. the same one sent to me twice.

]]> By: john mcd. http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1033 john mcd. Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:33:36 +0000 http://aphotoeditor.com/2007/10/31/photographer-spam/#comment-1033 I can sympathize with someone who feels overwhelmed by unwanted e-mail. but what are we supposed to do? poor Chris. by the way, Wired isn't as cool as it used to be. I can sympathize with someone who feels overwhelmed by unwanted e-mail. but what are we supposed to do? poor Chris.

by the way, Wired isn’t as cool as it used to be.

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